We will look at what each President Trump and President Biden said during the CNN Presidential Debate on June 27, 2024, and count the lies!
BIDEN easily surpassed 200 LIES!
Scoreboard, going into the second page:
LIES BY BIDEN: 116
LIES BY TRUMP: 19
At this point, Dana Bash asked Trump if he'd favor and independent Palestine, if that would end the war.
TRUMP'S FIFTEENTH ANSWER:
I’d have to see.
But before we do that, the problem we have is that we spend all the money.
So they kill us on trade.
I made great trade deals with the European nations, because if you add them up, they’re about the same size economically. Their economy is about the same size as the United States. And they were – no cars. No – they don’t want anything that we have. But we’re supposed to take their cars, their food, their everything, their agriculture. I changed that.
But the big thing I changed is they don’t want to pay. And the only reason that he can play games with NATO is because I got them to put up hundreds of billions of dollars. I said – and he’s right about this, I said, no, I’m not going to support NATO if you don’t pay. They asked me that question: Would you guard us against Russia? –- at a very secret meeting of the 28 states at that time, nations at that time. And they (sic) said, no, if you don’t pay, I won’t do that. And you know what happened? Billions and billions of dollars came flowing in the next day and the next months.
But now, we’re in the same position. We’re paying everybody’s bills.
Now Jake Tapper asks about January 6th and potential violation of the Presidential Oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United Sates. (Presumably, however, Tapper should have re-read the part about the right of the people to petition the Government for a redress of grievance.)
TRUMP'S SIXTEENTH ANSWER:
Well, I don’t think too many believe that.
And let me tell you about January 6th, on January 6th, we had a great border, nobody coming through, very few. On January 6th, we were energy independent. On January 6th, we had the lowest taxes ever, we had the lowest regulations ever. On January 6th, we were respected all over the world. All over the world we were respected, and then he comes in, and we’re now laughed at, we’re like a bunch of stupid people. What happened to the United States’ reputation under this man’s leadership is horrible, including weaponization, which I’m sure at some point you’ll be talking about, where he goes after his political opponent because he can’t beat him fair and square.
Well, I didn’t say that to anybody. I said peacefully and patriotically.
And Nancy Pelosi, if you just watch the news from two days ago, on tape to her daughter, who’s a documentary filmmaker, as they say, what she’s saying, oh, no, it’s my responsibility, I was responsible for this. https://youtu.be/oksVQrXRAkE?si=4EilDRmXZiOzF57h
Because I offered her 10,000 soldiers or National Guard, and she turned them down. And the mayor of – in writing, by the way, the mayor, in writing turned it down, the mayor of D.C. They turned it down.
I offered 10,000 because I could see – I had virtually nothing to do. They asked me to go make a speech. I could see what was happening. Everybody was saying they’re going to be there on January 6th. They’re going to be there. And I said, you know what? There’s a lot of people coming, you could feel it. You could feel it too. And you could feel it. And I said, they ought to have some National Guard or whatever. And I offered it to her. And she now admits that she turned it down. And it was the same day. She was – I don’t know, you can’t be very happy with her daughter because it made her into a liar. She said, I take full responsibility for January 6th. (LIE-- although Pelosi said, "and I take responsibility for not having them just prepare for more," she did not say she bore full responsibility.")
BIDEN'S SIXTEENTH ANSWER:
Look, he encouraged those folks to go up on Capitol Hill, number one.
I sat in that dining room off the Oval Office – he sat there for three hours, three hours, watching, begging – being begged by his vice president and a number of his colleagues and Republicans as well to do something, to call for a stop, to end it. Instead he talked – they’ve talked about these people being patriots and – and great patrons of America. In fact, he says he’ll now forgive them for what they’ve done. They’ve been convicted. He says he wants to commute their sentences and say that – no.
He went to every single court in the nation (Obvious LIE), I don’t know how many cases, scores of cases, including the Supreme Court (LIE, there were no Supreme Court cases heard about the 2020 election), and they said they said – they said, no, no, this guy, this guy is responsible for doing what is being – was done (LIE, no Court has said Trump is responsible for the assault on the Capitol).
He didn’t do a damn thing (LIE -- at approximately 7:40 PM and 8:15 pm, Trump issued statements urging full cooperation with law enforcement As President-Elect, what did Joe Biden do that day? Oh, NOTHING!). And these people should be in jail (LIE -- many had the charge of "obstruction of a proceeding" overturned). And they should be the ones who are being held accountable. And he wants to let them all out.
And now he says if he loses again, such a whiner that he is, that there could be a bloodbath.
TRUMP'S SEVENTEENTH ANSWER:
What they’ve done to some people that are so innocent, you ought to be ashamed of yourself, what you have done, how you’ve destroyed the lives of so many people.
When they ripped down Portland, when they ripped down many other cities – you go to Minnesota, Minneapolis, what they’ve done there with the fires all over the city. If I didn’t bring in the National Guard, that city would have been destroyed.
When you look at all of the – they took over big chunks of Seattle. I was all set to bring in the National Guard. They heard that, they saw them coming and they left immediately. (LIE -- they consolidated in an area that the Democratic Mayor of Seattle said could remain unpoliced for several months)
What he said about this whole subject is so off. Peacefully patriotic.
One other thing, the unselect committee, which is basically two horrible Republicans that are all gone now, out of office, and Democrats, all Democrats, they destroyed and deleted all of the information (LIE, just the information that contradicted the narrative they wanted to put forth) they found, because they found out we were right. We were right. And they deleted and destroyed all of the information.
They should go to jail for that. If a Republican did that, they’d go to jail.
BIDEN'S SEVENTEENTH ANSWER:
The only person on this stage that is a convicted felon is the man I’m looking at right now. (LIE -- sentencing has been postponed, and conviction, many say, is not valid until sentencing.)
And the fact of the matter is he is – what he’s telling you is simply not true. (LIE)
The fact is that there was no effort on his part to stop what was going on up on Capitol Hill. (LIE, President Trump tweeted out messages to obey law enforcement, but President-Elect Biden actually said nothing.) And all those people, every one of those who were convicted (LIE, the Supreme Court has said the obstruction charges were improperly applied in about 90% of the cases) deserves to be convicted. The idea that they didn’t kill somebody, just went in and broke down doors, broke the windows, occupied offices, turned over desks, turned them over, statues – the idea that those people are patriots?
Come on.
When I asked him, the first of two debates we had – debates we had the first time around, I said, will you denounce the Proud Boys? He said, no, I’ll tell them to stand by. (TRUE, but Biden actually had said, " “We have put together I think the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics.” Which Democrats and the press simply said was a slip of the tongue. But why would Trump not believe Biden that time?) The idea he’s refusing – will you denounce these guys? Will you denounce the people we’re talking about now? Will you denounce the people who attacked that Capitol? What are you going to do?
Jake Tapper then asks Trump about his feelings and statements about his political opponents.
TRUMP'S EIGHTEENTH ANSWER:
Well, I said my retribution is going to be success. We’re going to make this country successful again, because right now it’s a failing nation. My retribution’s going to be success.
But when he talks about a convicted felon, his son is a convicted felon at a very high level. His son is convicted. Going to be convicted probably numerous other times. He should have been convicted before, but his Justice Department let the statute of limitations lapse on the most important things.
But he could be a convicted felon as soon as he gets out of office. Joe could be a convicted felon with all of the things that he’s done. He’s done horrible things. All of the death caused at the border. Telling the Ukrainian people that we’re going to want a billion dollars or you change the prosecutor, otherwise, you’re not getting a billion dollars.
If I ever said that, that’s quid pro quo. That – we’re not going to do anything, we’re not going to give you a billion dollars unless you change your prosecutor having to do with his son.
This man is a criminal. This man – you’re lucky. You’re lucky.
I did nothing wrong. We’d have a system that was rigged and disgusting. I did nothing wrong. (LIE, we've all done a least something wrong.)
BIDEN'S EIGHTEENTH ANSWER:
The idea that I did anything wrong relative to what you’re talking about is outrageous. (LIE) It’s simply a lie (LIE), number one.
Number two, the idea that you have a right to seek retribution against any American just because you’re a president is wrong, is simply wrong. No president’s ever spoken like that before. No president in our history has spoken like that before. (But Biden has acted like that, although not technically a lie, just a good old Democratic turn of a misleading phrase.)
Number three, the crimes that you are still charged with – and think of all the civil penalties you have. How many billions of dollars do you owe in civil penalties for molesting a woman in public (LIE, several million) (LIE, not in public but in a dressing room with no witness), for doing a whole range of things, of having sex with a porn star on the night – and – while your wife was pregnant?
I mean, what are you talking about? You have the morals of an alley cat. (LIE -- by definition, no animals can have morals of any kind.)
TRUMP'S NINETEENTH ANSWER:
I didn’t have sex with a porn star, number one.
Number two, that was a case that was started and moved – they moved a high-ranking official, a DOJ, into the Manhattan D.A.’s office to start that case.
That case is going to be appealed in one. We had a very terrible judge, a horrible judge, Democrat. The prosecutor were all high-ranking Democrats, appointed people. And the – both the civil and the criminal.
He basically went after his political opponent because he thought it was going to damage me. But when the public found out about these cases – because they understand it better than he does, he has no idea what these cases are. But when he – they – when they found out about these cases, you know what they did? My poll numbers went up way up. You know that because you’re reporting it. And we took in more money in the last two weeks than we’ve ever taken in in the history of any campaign, I don’t think any campaign has ever taken. Hundreds of millions of dollars came pouring in because the public knows it’s a scam and it’s a guy that’s after his political opponent because he can’t win fair and square.
Now Jake Tapper asks Biden about his unusual claims that a vote for the opposition is somehow a vote AGAINST democracy.
BIDEN'S NINETEENTH ANSWER:
The more they know about what he’s done, yes. The more they know about what he’s done.
And there’s a lot more coming. He’s got a lot of cases around the road coming around (LIE -- just a couple left). He’s got – he’s got a whole range of issues he has to face (LIE -- just a few left) I don’t know what the juries will do, but I do know –- I do know he has a real problem. (LIE)
And so the fact that – could you ever think you’re hearing any president say that, I’m going to seek retribution? Do you ever hear any president say that he thought it might be a good idea?
What got me involved to run in the first place after my son had died, I decided – in Iraq – because of Iraq, I said, I wasn’t going to run again. Until I saw what happened in Charlottesville, Virginia, (LIE, completely debunked) people coming out of the woods carrying swastikas on torches – torches and singing (LIE, no singing reported) the same antisemitic bile they sang when – back in Germany.
And what did – and the young woman got killed. I spoke to the mother. And she – they asked him, they said, what – well, what do you think of those people, the people who – the one who – the ones who tried to stop it and the ones who said, I think there’s fine people on both sides? (LIE, completely debunked.)
What American president would ever say Nazis coming out of fields, carrying torches, singing the same antisemitic bile, carrying swastikas, were fine people?
This is a guy who says Hitler’s done some good things. I’d like to know what they are, the good things Hitler’s done (LIE -- sourced only from one fired staffer, and of course, like Mussolini getting the trains to run on time in Italy, no politician can win a national election without doing some good things.) That’s what he said.
This guy has no sense of American democracy. (LIE)
TRUMP'S TWENTIETH ANSWER:
Jake, both of you know that story’s been totally wiped out. Because when you see the sentence, it said 100 percent exoneration on there. So he just keeps it going.
He says he ran because of Charlottesville. He didn’t run because of Charlottesville. He ran because it was his last chance at – he’s not equipped to be president. You know it and I know it. It’s ridiculous. We have a debate.
We’re trying to justify his presidency. His presidency, his – without question, the worst president, the worst presidency in the history of our country. We shouldn’t be having a debate about it. There’s nothing to debate.
He made up the Charlottesville story and you’ll see it’s debunked all over the place. Every anchor has – every reasonable anchor has debunked it. And just the other day it came out where it was fully debunked. It’s a nonsense story. He knows that. And he didn’t run because of Charlottesville. He used that as an excuse to run.
BIDEN'S TWENTIETH ANSWER:
And debunk. It happened (LIE). All you have to do is listen to what was said at the time (LIE).
And the idea that somehow that’s the only reason I ran. I ran because I was worried a guy like this guy can get elected. (LIE, Trump had already been elected in 2016).
If he thought they were good people coming out of that all – that forest, carrying those – those woods, carrying those torches, then he didn’t deserve to be president, didn’t deserve to be president at all.
And the idea that he’s talking about all of this being fabricated (LIE; he's only saying that Biden fabricated things, not the whole story), we saw it with our own eyes. We saw what happened on January 6. We saw the people breaking through the windows. We saw people occupying there.
His own vice president – look, there’s a reason why 40 of his 44 top cabinet officers refused to endorse him this time. His vice president hasn’t endorsed him this time.
So, why? Why? They know him well. They serve with them. Why are they not endorsing him?
Dana Bash now approaches each's first term, and what they face going into a second term. She asks Biden about that first, concentrating on the incomplete progress of African-Americans.
BIDEN'S TWENTY-FIRST ANSWER:
They acknowledge he made a lot of progress, number one. The facts of the matter is more small black businesses that have been started in any time in history. (Depends on definitions -- statistics seem to show that an inordinately these are one person endeavors, which many would consider a "gig worker," rather than a "business.") Number two, the wages of black –- black unemployment is the lowest level it has been in a long, long time (LIE, it reached a lower level under Trump than it was at the time of this debate). Number three, we find them – they’re trying to provide housing for black Americans and dealing with segregation that exists among these corporate -– these corporate operations that collude to keep people out of their houses. (LIE -- no large corporation actively discriminates, and if Biden is aware of any without prosecuting them, well, that's RACIST also).
And in addition to that, we find that the impact of, on the -– the choice that black families have to make relative to childcare is incredibly difficult. When we did the first major piece of legislation in the past (LIE -- Biden's been around a long time, but not since the first major piece of legislation), I was able to reduce black childcare costs (LIE -- it is only for those enrolled in a specific poverty assistance program, and only 17.1% of Blacks are in poverty --- but does this mean Biden is a racist who believes all/most Blacks live in poverty?). I cut them in half, in half. We’ve got to make sure we provide for childcare costs. We’ve got to make sure –- because when you provide that childcare protections, you increase economic growth because more people can be in the –- in the job market.
So there’s more to be done, considerably more to be done, but we’ve done a great deal so far and I’m not letting up and they know it.
I say, I don’t blame them for being disappointed. Inflation is still hurting them badly. For example, I provided for the idea (LIE -- one cannot "provide" for an idea without getting legislation passed; suggesting something is not this) that any black family, first time home buyer should get a $10,000 tax credit to be able to buy their first home so they can get started.
I made sure (LIE -- his student loan programs are under scrutiny by the Courts, and another got overturned after the debate, so nothing "sure" about them) that we’re in a situation where all those black families and those black individuals who provided had to take out student loans that were ballooning, that if they were engaged in nursing and anything having to do with volunteerism, if they paid their bills for 10 years on their student debt, all the rest was forgiven after 10 years. Millions have benefited from that and we’re going to do a whole lot more for black families.
TRUMP'S TWENTY-FIRST ANSWER:
And he caused the inflation. He’s blaming inflation. And he’s right, it’s been very bad. He caused the inflation and it’s killing black families and Hispanic families and just about everybody. It’s killing people. They can’t buy groceries anymore. They can’t.
You look at the cost of food where it’s doubled and tripled and quadrupled. (LIE -- although food is up to where many families cannot afford basic nutrition, that is due to about a 21% increase during his presidency.) They can’t live. They’re not living anymore. He caused this inflation.
I gave him a country with no, essentially no inflation. It was perfect. It was so good. All he had to do is leave it alone. He destroyed it with his green new scam and all of the other -– all this money that’s being thrown out the window.
He caused inflation. As sure as you’re sitting there, the fact is that his big kill on the black people is the millions of people that he’s allowed to come in through the border. They’re taking black jobs now, and it could be 18, it could be 19, and even 20 million people. They’re taking black jobs and they’re taking Hispanic jobs and you haven’t seen it yet, but you’re going to see something that’s going to be the worst in our history.
BIDEN'S TWENTY-SECOND ANSWER:
There was no inflation when I became president. You know why? The economy was flat on its back (LIE). 15 percent unemployment (LIE, it came close, but never reached 15%) he decimated the economy (LIE -- the pandemic did) absolutely decimated the economy (LIE repeated). That’s why there was no inflation at the time (LIE -- inflation did not change significantly under Trump, whether under the pandemic or before the pandemic began).
There were no jobs (LIE, there were about 140 million active jobs in the United States at the end of Trump's term). We provided thousands of millions (LIE -- thousands of millions are BILLIONS) of jobs for individuals who were involved in communities, including minority communities.
We made sure that they have health insurance. We have covered with – the ACA has increased. I made sure that they’re $8,000 per person in the family to get written off in health care (LIE, generally no deduction is available at all until your health care expenses are over 7.5% of your adjusted gross income), but this guy wants to eliminate that (LIE, no one can eliminate something that does not exist). They tried 50 times. He wants to get rid of the ACA again, and they’re going to try again if they win.
You find ourselves in a position where the idea that we’re not doing it. I put more – we put more police on the street than any administration has (LIE -- that seems to be merely a proposal). He wants to cut the cops (LIE -- Trump has never said any such thing). We’re providing for equity, equity, and making sure people have a shot to make it (LIE -- he's transferring opportunity among groups). There is a lot going on. But, on inflation, he caused it (LIE) by his tremendous malfeasance (LIE, handled equivalently by many first world countries) in the way he handled the pandemic.
BIDEN HAS DROPPED OUT OF THE RACE! I WAS GETTING TIRED OF COUNTING HIS LIES ANYWAY!
THE OFFICIAL CNN YOUTUBE VIDEO OF THE DEBATE IS 98 MINUTES LONG. AT THIS POINT, WE HAD COUNTED LIES THROUGH THE FIRST HOUR AT THIS PONT. PROPORTIONATELY, THAT EXTRAPOLATES TO AN ASTOUNDING 260 LIES FOR JOE BIDEN FOR THE FULL TIME!
Scoreboard, to this point:
LIES BY BIDEN: 160
LIES BY TRUMP: 24